No Regrets, just some frustrations…
Posted by: chiky in Don't Know, chirag, crap, linux, suggestions, viewpoint, tags: chiky, crap, education, ghrera, jaypee university of information technology, JUIT, student, teacher, viewpoint
This goes out for all the pedagogue who don’t do their job seriously and play with lives of their students and are responsible for their lethargic, non-inquisitive and carefree attitude.
DISCLAIMER: The things described here have resemblances to persons living or dead and that too on purpose. Resemblances to and JUIT (Jaypee University of Information Technology) are solely on purpose, there is not even a need to think about other reasons apart from the ones mentioned below. Anyone who finds this post of mine, unethical (go read your ethics first), intimidating (I’m glad you are), or has any other damn problem with it…contact me, I’m challenging everyone to fight with me in open, lets have an open debate (will stream it on giss.tv).
REFERENCES (read them first):
- Nuisances of Life
- I regret…Of lately!!!
- You might find something here (personal undisclosed blog of shanky sir, which is kinda maintained also. hmm): http://shankysingh.blogspot.com/
- Sp Ghrera …..Teaches Network Security LIke He Is Reciting “Who’s Who”
Okay, so lets get started. I got an A in my B.Tech project, which must have been specially reduced from an A+ (as i know my college very well) based on some kinda algorithm of which CGPA was the main factor (read 100%). The algorithm, I’m sure chandra sir or ghrera sir themselves wouldn’t have understood. You know why, because being in the computer science industry for i don’t know some 20 years (as they told us in their classes about the first comp they saw and other family history…everything apart from course content) don’t even know the difference between Linux and windows. They probably don’t even know Linux is an OS. (and they talk about “their own” days).
Chandra sir (Computer Science teacher in Jaypee University of Information Technology, JUIT) is so good in writing poetry…probably he should go to some kavi-sammelan and tell the world about the crap hes written. Just being in a technical university and teaching students all the crap about your shitty poetry doesn’t help. ( i forgot the link where he submits his poetry..huh, you should have seen that) Students are there to learn technology, not your poor Hindi writing skills. And you know what, writing algos isn’t your stuff…you should start with a+b;
For our dear Ghrera sir (Computer Science HOD in Jaypee University of Information Technology, JUIT): go and jump in some lake, i wanna see if you can swim there. Swimming in a kid-pool is so damn easy! Once you’re out of JUIT, m sure you’ll drown in the new technologies (i.e. after the fall of Alexander, The Great). Stop living in the past…at least see the present, if not future (which you cant anyways). Get a life, at least dont play with the students with your age old ideas and teachings. Your skills might be useful for children in villages (you should actually try that)…even school kids know more than you, they are more advanced… First, you yourself don’t do anything apart from signing assignments in tonnes (which also include some erotic lyrics..but u just don’t get to know about it). You’re just tooo busy watching videos on youtube..yeah we know it..saw it from the staircase, its all visible! And don’t get me started on what kind of videos. Then you have a son who should get married.lol.. This is funny:
So, if you see those links clearly, the post date and time (lets take the second one). [Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 12:02 am Post subject: Timing Marriage]. Now, look at the bottom right of the page, [All times are GMT - 6 Hours] But, Indian time is +5.30hrs of GMT, so if he posted this at 12:02am, the equivalent Indian Standard Time becomes: 12:02 + 6:00 + 5:30 = 11.32am. Now, it was a Thursday and at this time, we have classes going on in college. The date is 14th May 2009, our project presentations were going on, and Ghrera sir was busy doing something in office, thats why he was not able to attend the FINAL presentations of BTECH 8th Semester students, which was 30 credit project work (and one year of hard work of students), which will also decide their future, but NO! For Ghrera Sir, these things just do not matter at all. Hell with the presentations, hell with students, hell with their career…i just have to get my son married…i don’t why hes not able to find a bride for himself (he must be having your genes only na…not doing anything himself). And I’m just afraid to think, how may times, he must have done that with thousands of students now (based on his career) and they must be cursing him for that.
This is just not enough, he steals grades away from people who actually did something, wrote some code and not steal it like he did with his students. Giving your students the code and then giving them a good grade is just so easy..isnt it? But eventually what will happen..your students will be crying in future whereas hard-working students will be happy in their lives even more than you. I just hope, someday i have some right in JUIT, i’ll demote you to a cleanliness job..that ways you’ll get to learn the basics…of life, work, money and everything else. And mind you….with people like you around, we don’t have to complain whole of India and Indian govt for not doing anything about improving the education system, you people justify it all. Be prepared for your worst nightmare on convocation…stay away from me..but i think I’ll find you anyways. I don’t know what will be the future of Computer Science department of Jaypee University of Information Technology, JUIT.
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Frutation speaks in loud voice , :D
Put the post in uppercase to make it LOUD!!
:D:D:D:D
I think this is enough…call me if anyone wants to hear LOUD voice..lol
gr8 work.i wnat to listen to more sectrets of teachers dat u mentioned:P…..bt honeslty very true bout JUIT nd its faculty.
I didn’t knew my x-roomie was going through so much…
i had no idea my x-roomie was goin through dis much..bt sadly all true…de lake 1 is gd chiky :P :( ..
lolz
Well this is second blog of this kind …And this definately indicates the frustation in 2009 passout batch…and as
Shanky says: frustation is written all over it
thanks guys for writing..i’ll be writing more of it. With all your love and support, i’ll totally bash-up everyone in the university..lol
@unknown: you somehow sound familiar…kindly tell us your name. :p
the hysteria of 4 years strengthens after reading your post!! I tried to find out if there was anything really postive abt the old and lean 8086 (read HOD) …and the only thing i culd get was the 1 hr of afternoon nap that he used to let us have during his lectures. I do believe that it is a natural tendency, a human psychie to bcome resistive to new technologies as you grow old..and though would nt say he is as old as some of those in ECE department..the human tendency is showing some good effect in him….!!
Regarding grades..i wish we could forget that asap….the only realisation i gt after looking at my transcript of btech was..the least i knew..the more grades i got( and vice versa)….Thanks to the CSE department
unbelievably true !!!!
Chiky very much true , and watever u said is believable…. (nt like mehta said)… n i hope juniors do something about this as we didnt do nething bout dis… Rang De Basanti spirit :P
JUIT really sucks!
Here is my version:
All the students of 3rd yr PRE-REGISTERED for the electives to be taken in the 4th yr thinking that it will avoid the inconvenience on the registration day and thereafter, as told by our HOD.
The registration day was all chaos and there was no order. The teachers on desk said that all the subjects are being given according to the preferences of the students. So everyone came there as per their own wish. And when I attended the classes on the very first day our Dear Dear Dear HOD sir informed us that they cannot accommodate so may students in electives so the people who registered late (late as in 1 or 2 hours) would be de-registered from the subjects.
This way I got kicked from 2 subjects and am still uncertain about the other 2 :(:(
Aren’t there better ways than FCFS to solve this problem?? And what about pre registration?
JUIT really sucks….
and yes the even blocked twitter for a few days :D:D
I will not let this college interfere with my education :P
@Guess Who
dude, dont let them interfere with your education and the things you want to do. Theres always another way to what they try to block by conventional means. And we open source ppl know it better… ;)
And well, JUIT doesnt let you do what you want to…what you intend to do in future, what is important for you…we all know it. Just keep irritating them by finding another means of doing it and doing it better than them. :)
Whatever written above, i feel its true upto ur believe….no harsh feelings but i feel, its not only the faculty, but the students role as well in the learning…
if u want to change something, then be the change; not just criticise it…..
Nothing will change if we only talk…..if u feel so much against the faculty, why not write about the students also……Then it will be a true comparision
My bro, i think, JUIT is a great place, achieved alot in 4 yrs but its upto u, want u want from life….not from others to give something into ur plate…
Think & ponder !!!
- A fellow JUITian
And one more thing, try comparing JUIT with other colleges; take any one for instance, say DCE…..govt teachers don’t teach anything,…..and u know it….
Atleast in JUIT u get to learn bits and pieces…..Rest apni akal ladaao….there r no boundaries to knowledge….. !!!!
@NameWidHeld: I agree to your point here. But tell me these things,
- Have you ever tried to change the way things work in our college?
- Have you ever tried to tell a teacher to take the class when he was letting everyone free?
- Have you ever tried finding out why a teacher did not take the last class?
- Did you ever go to a teacher’s cabin just to learn something other than the course?
- Have you ever studied subjects out of your domain?
- Did you study subjects a day before the exam just for knowledge and not marks?
And the most important ones:
- Did you ever challenge the college faculty and yourself by doing something apart from the crowd (that is in academics) and which was feared by everyone else and without the help of any teacher?
- Did you ever try to prove your point about anything to the whole of college including the students and the faculty and worked so hard for it (staying awake for 3-4 days) that everyone approved of it?
If the answer to most of the above questions is ‘yes’, I surely agree to you and yes, you have learnt a lot in college, you have made the effort in doing whatever you wanted to and you know the college inside out. So, just take these above things as my frustrations only and I myself know what JUIT is good at. :)
But if the above questions seem stupid-enough-to-answer questions to you, then my friend I am sorry to say that you don’t know anything about our college. You are one of those, who used to ask questions in class, write down notes in class and used to visit teachers in their cabins just to get good grades. You are someone who cared for marks and is probably an 8 pointer. You have not tried hard for getting anything done in JUIT apart from waiting in long queues for registration. You picked up a project floated by one of the faculty, you selected a project guide on the basis of the grades he/she gives and the number of papers he/she has published with students.
And I would like to tell you about the people who post here on this blog (see the about page: http://techfreaks4u.com/blog/?page_id=2) are the ones whos answers to ‘all’ of the above question is ‘yes’. These are the (i’d say) one-of-the-few who have taken the risk of doing something different from the crowd to prove their point and who tried hard to change the college (including students and faculty) in whatever way they could. They learnt a lot (i mean A LOT) during their college days and all are more than happy in doing what they are currently. And I should also say, nobody got anything in their platter and most importantly, nobody “wants” anything in their platter. Each one of us here are strong believers of “try n try until you succeed” and “you wont rise, if you dont fall down” et al philosophy. So, when we post here, we do mean something.
The thing which I am stressing out here is that teachers “should not” neglect students who are ready to learn. Not teaching or helping is one thing, but discouraging someone from learning something or not taking them seriously or failing them in subjects just because they happened to make some noise in the class or not listening to them in project presentations (which was allotted to them by you only) or criticising a project just because you couldn’t understand it or making a mountain-of-a-mole-hill because of some spelling mistakes.. is another. And I should say, the latter ones are a big sin for a teacher to commit. They don’t have any right to do this to a student. If you don’t like the job, please leave it and don’t spoil anyone’s career. And I think I have given enough proof of that in my post above.
I don’t know, why you have not posted your name here as you are a pass out now, and theres no need to be afraid of any teacher giving a back or something (jst kiddin :p), or even if you know any one of us here, these opinions are yours and theres no judgement based on that. Though its your choice.
And anything else which you think is right or whatevers going in your mind, you are welcome to post it here. :)
It really surprises me the extent to which u can bitch about ur collg….first of all no one forced u to join JUIT….der wasnt any army rule or shit that its necessary to join jaypee colleges….u guys shud have studied a bit harder and got into some decent collg..
If you guys urself cant work hard and get into a decent collg in the first place itself then how the hell you can start talking crap abt the institution…
dont get me wrong , i am myself a passout and i didnt like some of the things dat went arnd in our collg but then its my fault of taking admission into JUIT..
So stop cribbing and stop wasting ur time blogging about idiotic things….
oh yea and i am not afraid if posting my name coz i dont give a fkk what u all ppl think..
See, there will always be a tussle between the two opinions.. my take is that even if one tries to turn a blind eye to all the silly politics and petty ego trips that our beloved college’s Administration goes thru, one can not help but get affected by it. Now, one can slap a girl in front of thousands, and not get reprimanded, but you fall seriously sick(that too during exams, bad luck!) and you will be given a scare of your life! Billu wont give you any leave(rules are rules), your faculty is useless/helpless in such cases, you are not a doper, or someone “with the contacts”.. so all u can do is sulk and bare.. while others, in much worse situations(most of which are their own doing!) are given a royal treatment.. why this bias.. what do they want us to grow into ? i think we are looking into a bigger picture here.. it is such experiences in life that make you grow up into just another run-of-the-mill corrupt indian..
@Tushar: Seriously, you posted what you had in mind and thats what i did. And that is what is clearly mentioned in my last comment, that it’s your on discretion if you want to post your name or not, your opinions matter and not your name. You wrote your name and thats fine, there was no need of the last line which you wrote. Obviously, we don’t give a fuck about your thinking on our blog… That statement in my comment was for that person and not you.
As far as your “studying hard and getting into good college” goes, I would just say that I don’t believe in working hard for marks or what you call a “good college”, I just believe in knowledge. And if my knowledge landed me in a college like JUIT, I was fine with it. Probably only JUIT was meant for me. But that doesn’t mean that I just keep on accepting anything or every shit that the college has to offer. Like Aman said, the politics, the bias, the royal treatment, helpless faculty etc. Thats why, I tried to change things which needed some improvement. And you must have heard, “need is the mother of all inventions” and thats why I struggled hard to make a change and in the process I learnt a lot of things and yeah I am grateful of JUIT for this. I don’t know about you, but I try to change whatever I can wherever I go, whether its my home, my workplace or any other institution.
The reason why I post these things is that some day, some fine person will try again to make things better for the current/future students after he knows what all goes in inside the college faculty/administration. And probably I love my college, thats why I am doing this, probably I want my college to improve in future and probably I want people to compare JUIT with the top institutions and this is why I am doing it. I don’t know if you have ever thought about JUIT that way, but I have.
And “if” you have read this post carefully or any other JUIT-cribbing post, you “WILL NOT” find a mention of “why I joined this college”. I NEVER cribbed that why I got admission into JUIT as it was one of the happiest moments of my life when I got to know that I had cleared through the admission process. And the posts that I write are “criticism” and not cribbing… read the title again.. “No Regrets…”
@Aman: I agree with you here, no matter how hard we try to ignore these things (not only in college but anywhere else too), they do get in the path and in our minds… And unless we try to change ourselves and our environment, we won’t be satisfied and stay a cribbing-whining baby all our lives.
wow…. i love comments in this post…. so much interesting…..
srry dude i dnt agree with u, neither you can force your views on me….Acc to me constant cribbing about our collg just sucks….maybe you have a diff view…..As far as gaining knowledge goes you can gain knowledge irrespective of the fact where you are studying\living…l
hey tushar you are absolutely rite bro..
i too believe now the kind of atmosphere JUIT provided wasn’t that bad
i believe JUIT is far better than any other private cllg in india..
an institution is made from the kind of people that studies there not by the teachers ,mess or bla bla and if u say still say feels crapped abt JUIT you need to look into yourself first because ultimately u r pointing to urself………
i myself used to say so much crap abt the cllg but now i seriously feels it was much better than what we deserve :)
@tushar: i am not forcing any views here… i am just expressing my opinions. Again, I am not cribbing but criticising in the hope, this will change sometime..
And regarding the knowledge thing… read my comment again.. “I just believe in knowledge. And if my knowledge landed me in a college like JUIT, I was fine with it. ”
So, I think you are saying what I have said already…